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08-05-2019, 11:37 PM
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James and Julie, thanks for broaching the role of slavery as being among the prime factors. It would be remiss not to, methinks. Anyway, I could not forbear to register that I agree!
Cheers,
Erik
Last edited by Erik Olson; 08-05-2019 at 11:42 PM.
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08-06-2019, 06:07 AM
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08-09-2019, 12:40 PM
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We also, of course, have a massive mental health problem. Many shooters expect to be killed and the shooting looks to them like a glamorous way to commit suicide -- take a lot of people with you and get instant, if temporary, fame. But pending finding a Congress willing to spend a lot of money on public mental health from the cradle upwards, can we not all see the sense in the simple equation that fewer guns on the street = fewer dead bodies?
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08-09-2019, 12:59 PM
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The American gun conversation is what you get when years of propaganda have devoted themselves to brainwashing citizens from childhood on. Thus, mental health is always trotted out after the latest mass shooting. Other countries have mental health issues - these are indeed pretty much a constant worldwide. What other countries do not have is, to actually *name* the elephant in the room, America's gun culture. Thus, Gail, I agree with this 100%: "can we not all see the sense in the simple equation that fewer guns on the street = fewer dead bodies?" Or to paraphrase Bill Clinton: it's the guns, stupid.
I know, it's a big taboo in the US to blame actual guns for actual deaths of actual Americans. Well, I've gone and done it.
Cheers,
John
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08-09-2019, 02:15 PM
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The War of 1812 that used American sharpshooting skills has been forgotten on this thread and elsewhere. The Second Amendment made prima facie sense then in a way it does not now. (I’m not a current rifle owner nor would I want to be.)
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