Eratosphere Forums - Metrical Poetry, Free Verse, Fiction, Art, Critique, Discussions Able Muse - a review of poetry, prose and art

Forum Left Top

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Unread 02-01-2020, 05:18 PM
David Anthony David Anthony is offline
Distinguished Guest Host
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Stoke Poges, Bucks, UK
Posts: 5,081
Default Brexit

What do Americans think about Brexit?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Unread 02-01-2020, 08:17 PM
Max Goodman Max Goodman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 2,256
Default

One American sees it as a foolish and potentially harmful accident. A slim majority, having been told they could have the benefits of E.U. membership without the responsibilities, approved the idea of leaving the E.U. without, even among those in favor of leaving, an agreed-on idea of what the future relationship should look like.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Unread 02-01-2020, 09:15 PM
Michael Cantor Michael Cantor is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Plum Island, MA; Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 11,175
Default

I think it's a bloody disaster. Welcome to the club.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Unread 02-02-2020, 07:50 AM
Jan Iwaszkiewicz's Avatar
Jan Iwaszkiewicz Jan Iwaszkiewicz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Hunter Valley, NSW, Australia
Posts: 2,991
Default

Hello David

This is not quite an aside but have you read Boris's book on Churchill it is quite illuminating.

Jan
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Unread 02-02-2020, 07:51 AM
Orwn Acra Orwn Acra is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,339
Default

They like it because it makes them look less stupid.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Unread 02-02-2020, 09:35 AM
John Riley John Riley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 6,258
Default

Clearly, the entire Western Hemisphere is not reacting well to rapid changes and a shrinking world. Americans voted for Trump so he could build a silly wall like it's 500 BCE, and Great Britain is trying to pull back to their side of the channel and stop the free movement of people. It's all reactionary and more than a little pathetic and very frightening. What's going to happen when these sad attempts to go back in time don't work? What has usually happened is war.

Last edited by John Riley; 02-02-2020 at 10:52 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Unread 02-02-2020, 10:05 AM
Jim Moonan Jim Moonan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 4,238
Default

x
The contagion is spreading.
Ironically, it may turn out to be self-quarantining. Even as the world convulses, a purge is underway (however subtly). It's called reality. It's method: entropy, evolution of thought, and advancement of technology to bring the people's voices together.. (All of which involve some convolution, I suppose. It will take time.) Here we are.
Me at my most flagrantly optimistic? We are in the "step-backward" phase of the "two-steps-forward-one step backward" dance towards the best of all possible worlds.

Another aside: I was in Scotland recently (Late August into September when things were heated in the British Parliament.) I watched a fair amount of the coverage. Trump is infinitely more detestable, infinitely more sinister as a human being than Johnson, IMO. At least Johnson articulates well enough and conforms to decorum so as not to create havoc with the populace, and not blatantly fan the flames of fear, bigotry, racism, misogyny, etc. Trump is a nightmare. (Granted, it is still rearing its draconian head in Britain as a result of the isolationist, reactionary contraction that is Boris Johnson, but still, Trump - the word "trump" should be expunged from the English language forever IMO. )

Boris may have pulled the wool over the eyes of the British electorate, but Trump pulled the carpet out from underneath the American electorate — Then he set the floor on fire, walled us in and locked shut the windows and doors.
x
x

Last edited by Jim Moonan; 02-02-2020 at 01:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Unread 02-02-2020, 04:55 PM
David Anthony David Anthony is offline
Distinguished Guest Host
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Stoke Poges, Bucks, UK
Posts: 5,081
Default

But leaving aside Trump.
The British people voted to leave by a slim majority in 2016.
They voted the same way in the last EU election but by a bigger majority.
Then they voted the same way in the 2019 general election.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Unread 02-02-2020, 05:08 PM
David Anthony David Anthony is offline
Distinguished Guest Host
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Stoke Poges, Bucks, UK
Posts: 5,081
Default

So, last gasp of a failed empire, or first hope of a forward-thinking nation?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Unread 02-02-2020, 05:12 PM
R. Nemo Hill's Avatar
R. Nemo Hill R. Nemo Hill is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Halcott, New York
Posts: 9,871
Default

The former.

Nemo
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



Forum Right Top
Forum Left Bottom Forum Right Bottom
 
Right Left
Member Login
Forgot password?
Forum LeftForum Right


Forum Statistics:
Forum Members: 8,403
Total Threads: 21,890
Total Posts: 271,306
There are 3897 users
currently browsing forums.
Forum LeftForum Right


Forum Sponsor:
Donate & Support Able Muse / Eratosphere
Forum LeftForum Right
Right Right
Right Bottom Left Right Bottom Right

Hosted by ApplauZ Online