[Martin Elster]

Why not just send all the most heinous criminals to one of the moons of Saturn?

[Michael Cantor]

Oh God, I sense it coming - we're just minutes away from a very lengthy essay from Martin - quoting copiously from Wikipedia - devoted to the comparison of Saturn's moons and recommendations as to which which would be best from the viewpoint of expulsion.

[Martin Elster]

Actually, Michael, when the sun becomes a red giant and engulfs Mercury, Venus, and possibly Earth, everybody (not just heinous criminals) will have to move to one of those moons! They'll become quite habitable at that stage. That's about it for my essay.

[Allen Tice]

In fact, Michael and Martin, I am of two minds about your worry and Martin’s essay, both of which minds are in agreement. Guess how.

Emojis, emojis, emojis, avatars without big teeth.

[Matt Q]

New/updated statement from the Poetry Foundation today, the upshot of which is that they're not removing the offending poet, saying:

"We believe that weighing people’s convictions in editorial decisions for this issue would be antithetical to the discourse around the practices of freedom we are seeking to facilitate."

[Max Goodman]

Originally Posted by Kevin Rainbow

I think they should keep the authors anonymous in a situation like that. You can recognize artistic skill by such people without creating controversy and disturbing people - especially victims - by specifying their identities.

That's a creative solution and shows strong outside-the-box thinking.

The goal of the issue, though, was to give voice to a group of marginalized people, and failing to identify them would deny them a part of that voice.

[James Brancheau]

Off-topic, so removed.

[James Brancheau]

Most insane people, Max, think outside of the box. Because, they're crazy. What's really insane is not taking care of your fellow Americans. United States citizens. When you live in one of the richest countries in the world, and you have to debate about relief, after giving a massive tax cut~ well, whatever. It's so obvious it's ridiculous. It's not subtle, the bullshit.

*The above is off-topic too, but I'll leave it. Mostly because it really pisses me off. Anyway, the thread has evolved into a very important discussion and sorry to interrupt it. Carry on (also kerfuffle doesn't really bother me that much, haha~ I apologize too for the messing around~ it's just a fun word).