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Old 10-24-2017, 12:29 AM
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I wasn't familiar with those Morrissey lyrics, Damian. Thanks for that.

I was always pretty fond of "People Are Strange" by The Doors, though there's not much to it. Perhaps partly because the music and the lyrics seem a perfect match (and one hell of a song to try to get out of your head...). Though I don't like "Moonlight Drive" nearly as much, "let's swim to the moon" is a pretty cool moment.

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Old 10-24-2017, 03:38 PM
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Hey Jim B!

The lyrics Damian quotes are from Morrissey's 'comeback' noughties album 'You Are The Quarry', which was indeed his best for a while. The next lines, with cruel Wildean wit, are 'You have never been in love / until you've seen the dawn rise / behind the home for the blind'. It seems to be part of his ongoing fascination with teenage 'street-toughs'. When he lived in Manchester, in early Smiths songs like Rusholme Ruffians, he seemed terrified of them but then in his solo stuff they became more glamourised in a Dickensian Urchin sort of way. And this one, with its protagonist 'Hector' and given Morrissey now lives in LA, is I assume about Latino street gangs. Or at least Morrissey's homoerotic/West Side Story/romantic version of them. Anyway, it's an absolutely cracking song!!

Shame he's such an arse these days.

https://youtu.be/YP73L4mkEPM

First of the Gang to Die

You have never been in love,
Until you've seen the stars,
Reflect in the reservoirs

And you have never been in love,
Until you've seen the dawn rise,
Behind the home for the blind

We are the pretty petty thieves,
And you're standing on our street

Where Hector was the first of the gang
With a gun in his hand
And the first to do time
The first of the gang to die. Oh my.
Where Hector was the first of the gang
With a gun in his hand
And the first to do time
The first of the gang to die.

You have never been in love,
Until you've seen sunlight thrown
Over smashed human bones

We are the pretty petty thieves,
And you're standing on our street

Where Hector was the first of the gang
With a gun in his hand
And the first to do time
The first of the gang to die.
Such a silly boy.
Hector was the first of the gang
With a gun in his hand
And a bullet in his gullet
The first lost lad under the sod.

And he stole from the rich and the poor
And the not-very-rich and the very poor
And he stole all hearts away
He stole all hearts away

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Old 10-24-2017, 09:27 PM
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My friends and I at college were eagerly waiting for the next Smiths single: "Christ I'm still so f***ing miserable".
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Old 10-25-2017, 06:06 AM
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John, I think we're on a wavelength. I love that opening to 'Dirty Old Town' too, and have always loved the Joe Jackson song 'It's Different for Girls' that you allude to (particularly the acoustic version from a live album). And I'm with you on John Fogerty - what a voice and a what a songwriter. He has the ability to invoke an image with very few words:

Barefoot girls dancing in the moonlight

is another line from Green River that instantly puts a picture in my mind.

Mark, it's good to know there's someone else out there who digs that Morrissey song. A friend introduced me to Mozza's music a few years back and I saw the light. Also love Everyday is Sunday, Come Back to Camden, Boxers and Seasick Yet Still Docked and Smith songs like Cemetery Gates, Boy with the Thorn in His Side and I Know It's Over. He's a funny old bugger, but I can't help but be captivated whenever I see him interviewed.
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Old 10-25-2017, 06:32 AM
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My brother's kept up with Morrissey. I just know the Smiths stuff, but that is powerful, and I like his voice as well. Nothing quite like it.

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Old 10-25-2017, 12:55 PM
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Many thanks, Mark. Yeah, like John, I kinda lost track of him after The Smiths. I especially like those first two verses. And below that one was Suedehead and I couldn't help but listen to that too (one I actually do know).
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Old 10-28-2017, 10:03 AM
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More Dylan:

They say that Pat Garrett's got your number
So sleep with one eye open while you wonder
If every little sound just might be thunder
Thunder from the barrel of his gun.


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John
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Old 11-04-2017, 12:33 PM
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W S Gilbert penned many a memorable phrase, of which my favorite is;

Things are seldom what they seem;
Skim milk masquerades as cream.

I married a woman like that once; worked for companies with management like that more then once.
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Old 11-04-2017, 02:53 PM
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And The Mikado's "My Object All Sublime" perfectly explains Dante's Inferno...

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John
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Old 11-09-2017, 01:11 PM
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Wrong thread. See Gems.

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