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Unread 12-07-2013, 09:01 AM
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Default Chesterton on Free Verse

(not a thought you haven't encountered before, but strikingly put)

Vers libre, or nine-tenths of it, is not a new metre any more than sleeping in a ditch is a new school of architecture.
--G.K. Chesterton, "The Romance of Rhyme"
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Asked why didn't write free verse, Robinson said "I write badly enough as it is."
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Unread 12-07-2013, 10:54 AM
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Although these witty remarks are new to me, I've heard quite a few clever digs at free verse over the years. I wonder if anyone knows any equally clever digs made at formal poetry? I could use a good laugh directed at myself.

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Unread 12-07-2013, 11:57 AM
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Robinson also opined "It is said that vers libre is much harder to write than formal verse. From what I've read, I'd have to agree."
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I could use a good laugh directed at myself.
Ed
“When shall we three meet with Shacklee?”
Witches’ voices, gruff and crackly,
Mocking, jeering, harsh and cackly.
“When he writes vers libre?” “Exackly!”
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Writing free verse
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Said Ed.
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"Why do you scorn free verse?” Wallace Stevens wrote in a letter. “Isn’t it the only kind of verse now being written which has any aesthetic impulse back of it?”

Whatever. I very much fear "lockstep thinking" -- meaning that one joins a movement and accepts its tenets so wholeheartedly that thinking stops, experimentation stops, the possibility of surprise stops.
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Although these witty remarks are new to me, I've heard quite a few clever digs at free verse over the years. I wonder if anyone knows any equally clever digs made at formal poetry? I could use a good laugh directed at myself.

Best,

Ed
“Forcing twentieth-century America into a sonnet—gosh, how I hate sonnets—is like putting a crab into a square box. You’ve got to cut his legs off to make him fit. When you get through, you don’t have a crab any more.”
—William Carlos Williams
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“Forcing twentieth-century America into a sonnet—gosh, how I hate sonnets—is like putting a crab into a square box. You’ve got to cut his legs off to make him fit. When you get through, you don’t have a crab any more.”
—William Carlos Williams
No, William, dear. You craft the box to fit the crab. Works every time.
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