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09-04-2008, 10:15 AM
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Well...there is a social aspect to class warfare that blurs the economnic lines. It is a worse bag of fish entirely, and it's the kind I thing we're looking down the barrel of. Either way, class warfare becomes a civil war with no north or south. Remember, Rudy was the mayor of NYC. Those blurred lines are a killer.
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09-04-2008, 10:39 AM
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I could just taste her power-lust with every sarcastic, shrill word. She's definitely a divider - like W. but worse. There is something very, very sinister about this woman. I would like to say more about the speech which I just re-listened to via podcast, but will have to come back to this. She described herself as a pit bull with lipstick! Did you hear that?!
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09-04-2008, 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Mike Slippkauskas:
Kudos to the T.V. producers who picked out five or so brown-skinned faces in the crowd. But the more panoramic shots of the hall told rather a different story.
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It was a bunch of white, red-neck, gun-lovin', oil-guzzlin', pitbulls, mostly over 50. That's my best stereotype for the crowd I saw.
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09-04-2008, 10:48 AM
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This factoid could make it into the appendix of a new edition of Freud's Psychopathology of Everyday Life: Rudy Giuliani snapped, foamed and grimaced so long in his keynote that he preempted the short biographical film meant to introduce Governor Palin to America.
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09-04-2008, 11:11 AM
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She described herself as a pit bull with lipstick!
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Well thank The Lord that it wasn't a Democrat that described her that way.
I love that McCain has been foaming at the mouth demanding that no one dare mention her family again - and then half the speech is devoted to, you guessed it, her family.
But we can't talk about them. Families are off limits. Sacred. Beyond reproach.
I must be the only one who remembers the not-so-distant past when the Almighty-Appointed Defender of Family Sanctity, John McCain, asked the infamous "Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly" question and the answer he so gleefully supplied the entire GOP gathered together to hear his speech was - "Janet Reno is her father."
Oh well, I guess if he can change his mind on earmarks, oil drilling, health care, the value of experience, the press, and the importance of being consistant he can also change his mind on family, too.
Funny how poorly the shoe always fits when it's your own foot that's suddenly and uncomfortably the other one.
[This message has been edited by Laura Heidy-Halberstein (edited September 04, 2008).]
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09-04-2008, 11:50 AM
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It appears the GOP has decided its only chance is to wrap itself in the flag and cry, "It's us real folks or those people, so which are ya?" I guess we're about to find out.
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09-04-2008, 01:19 PM
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Easy enough for you to be so casual about it, Roy - you don't have to live here, nor do you have to live with the knowledge that nobody ever lost an election by appealing to the worst instincts of America, by dumbing down an election. We should be discussing foreign and economic policy, health care, long term energy independence, environmental concerns, dealing with China and Russia - instead, the Republicans want to make it about pose and personality, and good ol' swaggering George will be replaced by feisty Sarah, as John McCain turns his back on every thoughtful position he's held in the past.
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09-04-2008, 03:26 PM
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Ron Reagan (son of former President Reagan), remarking on Sarah Palin's GOP acceptance speech: "It must be said that this was a catolog of dishonesty."
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09-04-2008, 03:38 PM
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I try and stay out of these US political discussions, Michael because I'm just an outside observer. McCain will no doubt address some substantive issues tonight after the Palin criticism. Even though Obama looks like the man with the plan, will Americans elect a black president? A black man running against a war hero? This certainly is going to be interesting! You're right, I'm glad my health insurance isn't riding on the outcome.
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09-04-2008, 03:44 PM
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A black man running against a war hero?
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Can someone please explain to me how POW translates into war hero?
I'm not trying to be unpatriotic or demeaning or detracting or whatever else people get accused of being when they ask the question. I just really want to know.
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