[Janice D. Soderling]

Maryann, many thanks. I have decided not to use it inside my poem, only the title. I'm thinking I am not the only one who is unsure.

Thanks, John, I did look at the Byron play, but still couldn't figure it out.

Rick, you busted me. I am working on an ekphrasis of that painting. I guess that wasn't hard to figure out.

Anyhoo, thanks for the feedback, I don't know what keywords you used Maryann, but I didn't try Yahoo with the keywords I had. I found a lot of sites, but none that showed the pronunciation. Thanks both for the info, and the idea to try Yahoo in future.

Janice a.k.a. Hopeful

[Rick Mullin]

Actually, I didn't assume that, Janice. But, fantastic! That is one of my favorite paintings. De la Croix took enormous crap for it from the authorities of the Salon. Did anyone bother Byron?

Sorry to have inadvertently outed you. But, of course, you copped to it yourself in the end.~,:^) Anyway, I'm looking forward to reading your poem.

And, you know, for pentameter purposes, you can go anywhere up to and including SAR / da / NAP / a / LUS, whatever classics to the contrary. It is one of those names/words where, bascially, you tell us (within reason) how it is pronounced by how you use it in the line. I bet that's what Byron did.

IMHO
Rick

[Maryann Corbett]

We should probably bear in mind that Byron's pronunciation of Don Juan was "don JOO-un" and of Don Quixote, "don KWIK-sote."

These are the sort of details from my 18th-century lit course that I still retain, as opposed to anything important....

[Janice D. Soderling]

Rick, I will stow that away in my brain for future use, thanks. But I re-wrote the line and think it is better.

Maryann, fact is that is how the Swedes pronounce those words. Don Juan and Don Quixote. Friends are always correcting my pronunciation when I try to show off a little and discuss cultural things.

[Rick Mullin]

I rest my case vis Byron with the evidence presented by Maryann.

[David Landrum]

Originally Posted by Maryann Corbett

We should probably bear in mind that Byron's pronunciation of Don Juan was "don JOO-un" and of Don Quixote, "don KWIK-sote."

In Sheridan's A School for Scandal the prologue gives a speech where "wrote" and "Quixote" rhyme. That's kind of like the Romantic poets with PROS-er-pine.

dwl

[Janice D. Soderling]

I am probably exposing my ignorance now, but it won't be the first time.

Isn't that the Spanish pronunciation--to rhyme with "wrote", it isn't listed in my Spanish dictionary. I could get out my Spanish pronouncing CD dictionary but I don't know where it is exactly.

Cathy will be along to advise us.

We should have a Salon and discuss important matters like this, poetry and art and someone could play the violin. I was born in the wong era.

[Maryann Corbett]

If you google "Man of La Mancha" you'll probably find videos that will demonstrate the pronunciation I learned as correct for Spanish speakers: kee HO teh

I tried to link, but it keeps messing up.
Gee,we got far afield from the original question!

[Janice D. Soderling]

Maryann, how did you get to be so smart? Thanks I will check that out.

Yeah, but on the other hand, we have solved the original problem posed by this thread, so I think it is OK to goof around a little. My thread, open house!! But not if the question were still under discussion, then I would flash my badge. Ha!

Seriously, thanks.