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Unread 09-30-2009, 05:22 PM
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I think Donne has a poem about an unhappy couple, maybe not actually divorced but on the verge. I can't find it, so in the absence of a good poem I'm going to post one of the worst C & W songs I've ever heard. Yes siree, it's Tammy Wynette whining out D-I-V-O-R-C-E:


Our little boy is four years old and quite a little man
So we spell out the words we don't want him to understand
Like T-O-Y or maybe S-U-R-P-R-I-S-E
But the words we're hiding from him now
Tear the heart right out of me.

Our D-I-V-O-R-C-E becomes final today
Me and little J-O-E will be goin' away
I love you both and it will be pure H-E double L for me
Oh, I wish that we could stop this D-I-V-O-R-C-E.

Watch him smile, he thinks it’s Christmas
Or his 5th Birthday
And he thinks C-U-S-T-O-D-Y spells fun or play
I spell out all the hurtin' words
And turn my head when I speak
'Cause I can't spell away this hurt
That's drippin' down my cheek.

Our D-I-V-O-R-C-E becomes final today
Me and little J-O-E will be goin' away
I love you both and it will be pure H-E double L for me
Oh, I wish that we could stop this D-I-V-O-R-C-E.
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Unread 09-30-2009, 06:06 PM
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That Tammy Wynette song led off Bob Dylan's theme time radio hour on divorce. Here are the rest of the songs he played. You can hear them all for free on Rhapsody if you don't go over your 25-song free quota:

D.I.V.O.R.C.E. - Tammy Wynette - (1968)


The Grand Tour - George Jones - (1974)


Alimony - Tommy Tucker - (1965)


She Got The Goldmine (I Got The Shaft) - Jerry Reed - (1982)


Alimony Blues - T-Bone Walker - (1951)


(Pay Me) Alimony - The Maddox Brothers & Rose - (1946)


Alimony Blues - Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson & His Orchestra - (1947)


Divorce Decree - Doris Duke - (1981)


Married by the Bible, Divorced by the Law - Hank Snow - (1962)


Alimony - Huey "Piano" Smith & His Clowns - (1959)


Divorce Me C.O.D. - Merle Travis - (1946)


Mexican Divorce - The Drifters - (1962)


Will Your Lawyer Talk to God? - Kitty Wells - (1964)


Mr. & Mrs. Used To Be - Ernest Tubb & Loretta Lynn - (1965)


You Can't Divorce My Heart - Lefty Frizzell - (1951)


Love Doesn't Live Here Anymore - June Christy - (1953)
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Unread 09-30-2009, 07:44 PM
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Thanks all for the fine poems; please, keep them coming! Bill has suggested that I post Heart's Needle; here's a link. Yes, it is a great poem.

I've promised you some Snodgrass; apparently he got divorced four times so he had plenty of inspiration from life. There's a great run of divorce / failed marriage poems in his 1987 Selected; here are a few:

A Valediction

......Since his sharp sight has taught you
To think your own thoughts and to see
What cramped horizons my arms brought you,
......Turn then and go free.

......Unlimited, your own
Forever. Let your vision be
In your own interests; you've outgrown
......All need for tyranny.

......May his clear views save you
From those shrewd, undermining powers
That hold you close just to enslave you
......In some such love as ours.

......May this new love leave you
Your own being; may your bright rebirth
Prove treacherous, change then and deceive you
......Never on this earth.

......Now that you've seen how mindless
Our long ties were, I pray you never
Find, all your life through, such a blindness
......As we two shared together.

......My dark design's exposed
Since his tongue opened up your eyelids;
May no one ever lip them closed
......So cunningly as I did.


Old Jewelry*

This Gypsy bodice of old coins
......From seven countries, woven fast
So that a silver braidwork joins
......The years and places their tribe passed;

This crown-shaped belt, cast in Souflí--
......Jeweled, enameling on silver-gilt--
A trothplight, then that surety
......On which a family would be built;

This Roman fibula, intact
......From the fourth century though bent;
This Berber fibula, once blacked
......With layers of thick tar to prevent

Theft but that, scoured and polished, shone
......As luminous as it ever was;
This lapis, Persian, the unfading stone
Gold-flecked and implicate with flaws;

Brass arm bands, rings, pins, bracelets, earrings--
Something from nearly every place
We'd been. Once more to see these dear things
Laid out for buyers in a locked showcase.

I'd known them, each one--weighed in hand,
......Rubbed, bargained, and then with my love,
Pinned each one on for her, to stand
In fickle times for emblems of

What lasts--just as they must have once
......For someone long dead. Love that dies
Can still be wrung out for quick funds;
......Someone, no doubt, would pay the price.

*In typing this poem out I have faithfully followed the indentation format in my 2006 Selected. However, it looks wrong, for obvious reasons. Does anybody have another edition of his poems, to see if this haphazard indentation is really what he intended? I'm beginning to suspect this is a rather shoddily-edited volume...

Love Lamp

There's our candle, on the bedstand still
That served, warm nights, for lovelight
And the rays of its glass panels played
On our entangled legs and shoulders
Like some sailor's red and blue tattoos
Or as cathedral stained glass alters
Congregated flesh to things less
Carnal, tinged by its enfolding glow.

What could that frail lamp seem
To prowlers outside--the fox, say, the owl,
Or to some smaller creature, shrieking,
Pierced in the clutch of tooth and claw
That interrupted love's enactments?
Our glancing flashlight, though, showed
Only scattered grey fur, some broken
Feathers, bloodstained, on the lawn.

Scuttling back to bed, a little
Chilled from the wet grass, we scratched
A match restoring our small gleam
To see there, sinking in soft wax,
The wings and swimming dark limbs
Of that moth--still there, hardened
By the years like amber. While I remember
The scathing fire-points of his eyes.
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Would Plath's "Daddy" qualify? It's a twofer: Dad and Ted.
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Unread 10-02-2009, 07:19 AM
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Billy Connolly wanted to be a folk singer but found out people laughed at him so he became a comedian. Here he is singing "D.I.V.O.R.C.E.":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzZzGxReXmo
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Unread 10-02-2009, 05:19 PM
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This classic Dylan song doesn't use the word "divorce," but I think it's close enough. (It's really so good it's scary).

Don't Think Twice, It's All Right

It ain't no use to sit and wonder why, babe
It don't matter, anyhow
An' it ain't no use to sit and wonder why, babe
If you don't know by now
When your rooster crows at the break of dawn
Look out your window and I'll be gone
You're the reason I'm trav'lin' on
Don't think twice, it's all right

It ain't no use in turnin' on your light, babe
That light I never knowed
An' it ain't no use in turnin' on your light, babe
I'm on the dark side of the road
Still I wish there was somethin' you would do or say
To try and make me change my mind and stay
We never did too much talkin' anyway
So don't think twice, it's all right

It ain't no use in callin' out my name, gal
Like you never did before
It ain't no use in callin' out my name, gal
I can't hear you any more
I'm a-thinkin' and a-wond'rin' all the way down the road
I once loved a woman, a child I'm told
I give her my heart but she wanted my soul
But don't think twice, it's all right

I'm walkin' down that long, lonesome road, babe
Where I'm bound, I can't tell
But goodbye's too good a word, gal
So I'll just say fare thee well
I ain't sayin' you treated me unkind
You could have done better but I don't mind
You just kinda wasted my precious time
But don't think twice, it's all right
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Does anyone know the title and singer of a song with the line,

"I was drinking doubles and she was thinking singles" (or the reverse)?

Googling and Blinging didn't find it for me. Hank Williams?

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Unread 10-16-2009, 04:27 PM
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Hi, Chris.
What a great topic. Right away, several poets come to mind. Claudia Emerson's book Late Wife is a brilliant collection that focuses almost entirely on the end of a marriage and the experience of surviving divorce. Leslie Harrison's Displacement, which won last year's Bakeless Prize in poetry and has just been published, is another book-length meditation on the subject. And, John Koethe's long poem, "Falling Water," (from the book of the same title), uses achitecture--namely Frank Lloyd Wright's work--as a metaphor for the structure of a marriage, one that ends in divorce.

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Unread 10-16-2009, 05:12 PM
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Thanks to Jehanne for bumping up this thread. A couple of days ago, I read Barbara Helfgott Hyett's "This Morning" on Poetry Daily and thought it was a good candidate.

http://poems.com/poem.php?date=14532

Her whole book Rift looks apt.
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Unread 10-16-2009, 05:41 PM
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And here's a Dylan song that does mention divorce:


Tangled up in blue.


Early one mornin' the sun was shinin',
I was layin' in bed
Wond'rin' if she'd changed at all
If her hair was still red.
Her folks they said our lives together
Sure was gonna be rough
They never did like Mama's homemade dress
Papa's bankbook wasn't big enough.
And I was standin' on the side of the road
Rain fallin' on my shoes
Heading out for the East Coast
Lord knows I paid some dues gettin' through,
Tangled up in blue.

She was married when we first met
Soon to be divorced
I helped her out of a jam, I guess,
But I used a little too much force.
We drove that car as far as we could
Abandoned it out West
Split up on a dark sad night
Both agreeing it was best.
She turned around to look at me
As I was walkin' away
I heard her say over my shoulder,
"We'll meet again someday on the avenue,"
Tangled up in blue.

I had a job in the great north woods
Working as a cook for a spell
But I never did like it all that much
And one day the ax just fell.
So I drifted down to New Orleans
Where I happened to be employed
Workin' for a while on a fishin' boat
Right outside of Delacroix.
But all the while I was alone
The past was close behind,
I seen a lot of women
But she never escaped my mind, and I just grew
Tangled up in blue.

She was workin' in a topless place
And I stopped in for a beer,
I just kept looking' at the side of her face
In the spotlight so clear.
And later on as the crowd thinned out
I's just about to do the same,
She was standing there in back of my chair
Said to me, "Don't I know your name?"
I muttered somethin' underneath my breath,
She studied the lines on my face.
I must admit I felt a little uneasy
When she bent down to tie the laces of my shoe,
Tangled up in blue.

She lit a burner on the stove and offered me a pipe
"I thought you'd never say hello," she said
"You look like the silent type."
Then she opened up a book of poems
And handed it to me
Written by an Italian poet
From the thirteenth century.
And every one of them words rang true
And glowed like burnin' coal
Pourin' off of every page
Like it was written in my soul from me to you,
Tangled up in blue,

I lived with them on Montague Street
In a basement down the stairs,
There was music in the cafes at night
And revolution in the air.
Then he started into dealing with slaves
And something inside of him died.
She had to sell everything she owned
And froze up inside.
And when finally the bottom fell out I became withdrawn,
The only thing I knew how to do
Was to keep on keepin' on
Like a bird that flew
Tangled up in blue.

So now I'm goin' back again,
I got to get to her somehow.
All the people we used to know
They're an illusion to me now.
Some are mathematicians
Some are carpenter's wives.
Don't know how it all got started,
I don't know what they're doin' with their lives.
But me, I'm still on the road
Headin' for another joint
We always did feel the same,
We just saw it from a different point of view,
Tangled up in blue.

– Bob Dylan
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