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08-30-2010, 05:51 AM
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good on yer Seree - poetry's strictly for Sheilas anyway...
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08-30-2010, 07:51 AM
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What about a male poet with long hair? Will that suffice?
I love the idea of only translating poems by women, but as far as I can make out, there are virtually no female formal poets in Europe. Now that's a slight exaggeration, but not really when you consider that for every female formal poet you find, there are about 500 male ones.
But shed the formal attire, of course, and there's women as far as the eye can see. Free verse abounds with females. Now if only I liked translating free verse... (-:
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PS: If anyone wants to discuss (after the event, I guess) what it's like to hunt for females in the world of formal poetry, and -- *gulp* -- the character and content of the poetry you find, I'll be happy to oblige.
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08-30-2010, 01:17 PM
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I think the more discussion the event generates, the better - during, before or after.
Petra, this is a very interesting - if demoralising - discovery. Are women so anti-formalist?
What do they say about this at Formalista? or at Mezzo Cammin?
Nothing to stop us formalising a free verse poem...... or two... or twelve.
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08-30-2010, 01:42 PM
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Petra - part of the fun of this event is to *gulp!!* move out of yr comfort zone. So, yeah, translate some FV or other stuff.... why not?
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08-30-2010, 03:02 PM
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Well, I don't want to be naughty and say right out why we don't see much formal poetry by women. But let's just say that up in northern climes female formal poetry is full of elves. A male poet will in fact put a troll in a poem now and then, and as with Fröding, give it a clever twist. But you seldom see cute elves running around in male poetry. Another big topic among female poets is God (how does that mix with elves, btw?). Then we have the usual: summer, nature, love -- all in rather pale, unmale, shades. The nice thing is, it doesn't look like female formalists revel much in nationalistic, patriotic poems -- which is one of the worst trends among male poets (depending on the time period, of course).
Free verse? I just tried out a free verse poem; I liked the poem in original, but it didn't work out for me in English. And the biggest reason is that the poem had no rhythm. And that's a real conflict. Maybe a free-verse poem has a bit of rhythm in original, but that rhythm, of course, goes right out the window when you're translating. Would I put a free-verse into formal verse? I've always heard that's a big No-No, though the opposite is done all the time.
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08-30-2010, 06:30 PM
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A little inspiration for the stumped:
Wikipedia list of female poets
(You can access poets by language at the bottom of the page; ought to be a way to compare the two and retrieve "female poets Korean" or what have you. Or you could just search.)
And don't forget that song lyrics are poems, too. Plenty of female songwriters out there...
Happy hunting!
Edited to say: there's mention of several female Classical/Hellenistic Greek (and one Latin) poets in this review:
http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2005/2005-11-05.html
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08-31-2010, 02:24 AM
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Thanks, Julie. That's very helpful!
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