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08-31-2008, 02:54 PM
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If we are to defer to the judgment of those who know her best, consider her own mother in law, who says she might vote for Obama.
Palin's mother-in-law uncertain about how she'll vote
And consider the comments of two major Alaskan newspapers that do not feel Palin is qualified for the job of VP or P.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-m..._b_122625.html
The same article quotes the REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT OF THE ALASKA STATE SENATE as saying:
"She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?"
And the REPUBLICAN SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, when asked if Palin is qualified to be president, replied only: "She's old enough. She's a U.S. citizen."
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08-31-2008, 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by Laura Heidy-Halberstein:
True, and you've neatly sidestepped my question about Kennedy and company.
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No, Lo, I wasn't side-stepping. I adore Kennedy. And many other Christian and or Catholic presidents who were not all about cramming their faith down everyone's throat.
In general, I don't trust dogmatic religious people - which was my point. Now, I don't have time to discuss this with you all day, so my answer will have to suffice for now.
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08-31-2008, 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by Tim Murphy:
How many of you...have been to The Great Land, have seen the Alaska Pipeline, have hiked in brown bear country?
I have.
Bob
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08-31-2008, 04:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Robert J. Clawson:
Originally posted by Tim Murphy:
How many of you...have been to The Great Land, have seen the Alaska Pipeline, have hiked in brown bear country?
I have.
Bob
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Yep, me too. Panned for gold, ate salmon, hiked the slopes of Denali, watched glaciers calving, all the good stuff.
Which makes me concerned about Palin wanting to drill all of it. There are pumpjacks in downtown Los Angeles and they look grotty and industrial enough there. I don't want them in the middle of a national wildlife refuge.
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08-31-2008, 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by Tim Murphy:
I'm not worried about the brown bears.
I am. They're easier to shoot than buffalo.
They're just everywhere in SE Alaska
I know Alaska's a great land mass, but so is the land where the buffalo roamed.
...and it wouldn't hurt for there to be a strictly controlled harvest...
Harvest?
And what would the program be named, Clear Meadows?
...to put the fear of man into those big fellows.
The next time I'm fishing in Katmai, the last thing I want to stumble upon is a fearful bear.
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09-01-2008, 04:12 AM
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So I don't get my head bitten off I'll start with the following disclaimer:
The following statements were overheard and repeated for discussion's sake and do not necessarily represent the viewpoint of the reporter.
*grin*
Listening to our staunch conservatives in the area, I've heard more than a few comment they might prefer if McCain retire should the McCain/Palin ticket get elected.
Nothing was said about the brown bear or the buffalo.
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09-01-2008, 04:13 AM
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I am deeply disturbed by the gun lobby, the hunting lobby,
and those who hunt and kill animals for sport. It is disgusting to me. These people are not pro-life.
This is Pro Life? Airial Hunting Video
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09-01-2008, 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by Anne Bryant-Hamon:
I am deeply disturbed by the gun lobby, the hunting lobby,
and those who hunt and kill animals for sport. It is disgusting to me. These people are not pro-life.
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Sure they are - they just get to pick which life is important. What they don't seem to get is that, like the buffalo, if you kill it all off - eventually you condemn your own children to death as well.
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09-01-2008, 05:49 AM
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Personally, I think you should only kill an animal:
a) as part of a larger program to regulate a biome
b) for food (common sense should dictate what is and is not fair game)
c) in self-defence (which does not include shooting brown bears or anything else on sight)
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09-01-2008, 06:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mike Todd:
Personally, I think you should only kill an animal:
a) as part of a larger program to regulate a biome
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I used to think that "a" was wrong - until they made deer protected near the Indiana Dunes area back home. Within a few years the deer were small, sickly and pathetic. There just wasn't enough food for all of them to exist anymore. The Game Commission in Indiana now holds a regularly scheduled and tightly controlled shoot each year for a very short period with very strict rules about who can shoot what and the number is minimal - just enough, in other words.
So, as much as it pains me to agree with it, I've learned to.
Be that as it may, killing anything from the air seems like the worst sort of arrogance.
It's not sport, it's slaughter.
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