[John Whitworth]

Well of course it does, Brian. I know that already from the crap computers spew out about global warming. You could produce much the same result as these sonnets without going near a computer. And I'm (almost) sure computers (except the one in your head) have nothing to do with your talent as a competition winner.

[Janice D. Soderling]

John, don't you believe global warming is real?

[John Whitworth]

It depends on what you mean by real. The planet warms from time to time. At other times it cools. Britain was much warmer in medieval times than it is now and colder in Victorian times. The planet has not warmed since 2000. Check that, Janice. It is true. Mind you, you'll have to check with someone who tells you the truth. Steer well clear of the University of East Anglia and Al Gore.

Anecdotal note. I remember it as much colder in the 1940s and 50s than it is now. I remember going to school when the outside temperature was 16 farenheit. Nothing like that nowadays, praise the Lord.

[Roger Slater]

14 of the 15 hottest years on record have occurred since 2000, UN says

[R. Nemo Hill]

John, you have firm and utterly uninformed opinion about absolutely everything, don't you. Give it a rest, and go putter about your small corner.

Nemo

[John Whitworth]

Weak case. Slander the plaintiff's attorney. Why do you guys get so cross when people don't agree with you? Why do you SHOUT so much?

I take it none of you live in Northern Canada. Thought not. Why are the polar bears not all dead? They are thriving. Why is the Arctic ice not melting. It isn't.

I expect you are all much too busy to listen for twelve minutes. But you might try The Skeptics' Case in 12 minutes. This is a guy who changed his mind. Imagine that. He changed his mind.

The day I believe anything that comes from the UN is the day I meet God at the bottom of the garden. The UN is a political organisation. It roundly condemns Israel. That OK with you? It roundly condemns the USA on many things. That OK with you?

Oh and quite irrelevantly. I used to be a conservative but I changed my mind.

[Brian Allgar]

Originally Posted by John Whitworth

It depends on what you mean by real. The planet warms from time to time. At other times it cools ...

I take it none of you live in Northern Canada. Thought not. Why are the polar bears not all dead? They are thriving. Why is the Arctic ice not melting. It isn't.

Yes, John, there have always been climatic changes leading to ice-ages and to thaws, but that was a natural cycle from which the planet recovered. This time, with all our technological knowhow, we're pushing it to the point of no return. Coral reefs developed over hundreds of millions of years, and managed to survive the natural fluctuations of climate. But now, thanks to us, 95% of coral may die over the next few decades.

As to your second point, I don't know the basis for your remarkable assertions, but here's a thought for you:

"Polar bears were added to the list of threatened species and will receive special protection under U.S. law. In his statement, Secretary of the Interior Dirk Kempthorne noted that the decline of Arctic sea ice is the greatest threat to the bears."

[Roger Slater]

The article is about a UN report, but it is not based on UN studies. The UN report "was based, amongst others, on three datasets - Hadcrut, NOAA and NASA - and the analysis from the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts."

The folks at NASA have some credibility, having put men on the moon. But wait, as a climate change denier, you probably think the so-called moon landing took place on a sound stage in LA.

As I continue to think about the climate change question, I will be sure to ask myself, "Whom should I believe? Ninety-seven percent of the world's climate scientists, or John Whitworth?"

[Brian Allgar]

Originally Posted by Roger Slater

The folks at NASA have some credibility, having put men on the moon. But wait, as a climate change denier, you probably think the so-called moon landing took place on a sound stage in LA.

Ah, but Roger, don't forget those early photos, hastily suppressed by NASA, that showed an old signboard just behind Armstrong's left ear. It was pretty faded, but you could still make out "Bates Motel."

[John Whitworth]

I see none of you has gone where I said you should go. But then it hasn't been twelve minutes, has it? And what has 97% of scientists got to do with it? What are the areas of expertise of these scientists? Atre the other 3% all MAD scientsts?

The inuit don't agree with you about polar bears, Brian. But, hell, what do they know? They just live there. They don't have all these degrees. Nevertheless, I wouldn't diss the inuit, if I were you. But I'm sure you weren't going to.