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Unread 04-28-2015, 06:14 PM
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"maa caab"

And are you sure about that french pronunciation? Never heard that one...
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Unread 04-28-2015, 08:17 PM
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If you are asking me (about the French pronunciation), I copied it from the internet thinking it was better than I could approximate. So take it with a grain of salt.

Thanks Roger, Ann and Bill. We are still about neck and neck.
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As Ann says. It's French, and hasn't been Anglicized like Paris or cul-de-sac (do Americans say cul-de-sac?) so it should be pronounced the French way, more or less. I would rhyme it with 'garb' and 'bicarb'.

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Anybody who went to New York City public schools in the forties was force-fed awful rhymed lyrics to such chestnuts as Danse Macabre, in order to provide us with a bit of couth. But I still remember:

The rooster crows at dawn you know,
telling the skeletons where to go.
Danse Macabre by Sant-Saens...


and Macabre was ma-CAB-re. Mrs. Bousefield insisted on it.

(I am also available for readings of Morning was dawning and Peer Gynt was yawning, and Greig was washing his face.. and the lovely tone poem Barcarolle from Tales of Hoffman, written by Offenbach and others. The shit that stays with you for seventy years or so absolutely amazes me.)
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The French way.

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But John, if you rhyme it with garb you are not saying it the French way. There is no "more or less" - is it is or is it ain't?

And, Michael, did your teacher give Saint-Saëns his final, audible "s"?

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Last edited by Ann Drysdale; 04-29-2015 at 02:13 AM. Reason: thought of another question.
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It seems unfair to ask everyone to fumble in the dark. So here is the final couplet and if it disqualifies me at the end-staion so be it. I'll just write another poem.

But one remains to bend the will.
Danse macabre will move us still.

From the context preceding these lines, the reader will realize (I hope) that the aha! is that an aforementioned dance continues albeit not as motion but as stillness. The couplet itself isn't spectacular but in the light of what precedes it, I think it is rather neat (well, it is my own child so I would think that wouldn't I) UNLESS the majority of readers stumbles at the crucial point, the finish line which is also the punch line.

You see by now that I'm hoping for a clear signal for " ma caaab" in this English text. I myself, ignorant and mostly self-taught and totally in awe of native and sundry fluent speakers, pronounce it with a (probably affected) slight R at the end, like "sacre" in Sacré-Cœur.

When I double-checked the pronouncing dictionaries, asking "how do you pronounce danse macabre?" I found no entry for the entire term, only for "macabre" and for that a range of pronunciations was given in the various pronouncing aids/dictionaries.

Thanks Ann (again), Duncan, Michael, John, Bill (again) for casting your votes.

Thanks all, for engaging in this thorny problem. I fully enjoyed the anecdotes and comments.
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