Michael, this is from Rattle's guidelines for submission:
Rattle does not accept work that has been previously published, in print or online (we do consider self-publishing to blogs, message boards, or Facebook as publication if it can be viewed publicly without login).
I have submitted to Rattle many times and have never been accepted there. My submissions have always contained poems that I have workshopped here. Admittedly, there are many reasons that my work may have been rejected, but I have to wonder whether one of them might be my workshopping. I think Rattle's policy is wrong and does a lot of harm to online workshops of poetry. But Rattle will do what the editors please. To me, the benefits of workshopping poems outweigh the benefits of getting into Rattle, so I may just stop submitting there. But it would be nice to be able to do both.
Susan
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