[Gregory Palmerino]

John,

I was actually referring to the Caning of Senator Sumner back in 1856. He was nearly beaten to death on the floor of the United States Senate. Now there's a tunnel in Boston dedicated to him.

Cheers,
Greg

[Julie Steiner]

So, negative stuff can be said on the Senate floor about all potential cabinet nominees except those who happen to be current Senators, because they're protected by Section 2 of Senate Rule XIX? Give me a break.

[Charlie Southerland]

Julie, Alabama used to elect primarily Democrat Senators. You know, the ones who went tear-assing around in white sheets and pointy hats, burning crosses. Republicans in Alabama love Sessions. He's a good man. I don't think he should be taken apart like his Democrat colleague Fauxcahontas tried to do.

[Catherine Chandler]

Get a life, Charlie.

[William A. Baurle]

Originally Posted by Catherine Chandler

Get a life, Charlie.

Charlie's got a splendid life, from what I can tell, Catherine.

[William A. Baurle]

Charlie,

I reserve judgment about Sessions.

Briefly, I know all about how difficult it is for a person without money to come to the US legally. I experienced the whole tangle of red tape and ridiculous questions. I sat for hours in Phoenix with my then wife, getting her through the process of achieving her citizenship. She came to the US as a girl of 12, scared out of her mind because of the "coyotes", who insisted on getting money and, occasionally, sexual favors.

We received a letter from the department of immigration in Phoenix, during this long process, telling us that we must arrive at such and such a day, for such and such an interview. If we did not arrive on that day, our chances of making it through the process would be threatened. The date of this interview was about a week before the letter arrived. We set up another appointment, and paid a lot of money because we had missed the appointment we had no chance of getting to.

I have much more, but back to Sessions. I'm not saying he's not a good man. I always thought we're not supposed to make that kind of a judgment?

Edited in: I should add that my ex-wife is now a citizen, not just legal. She's a notary public, a certified Nurse's Aide (CNA), and makes her living caring for the elderly. We are the happy parents of two great boys, and are good friends, despite the years of pain we gave each other.

I think we need to radically change the current immigration laws, to make it easier (not more difficult) for people to come to the US legally. A big wall on the border won't change a thing, just cost a lot of money and create a bigger challenge for destitute people from all over. < I mean under. D'oh!

I say we build a wall up north, to keep those dang Canadians away! I mean, who needs more people who say 'aboot' stealing all those housekeeper and dishwasher jobs?

Blame Canada!

(Just joking, of course!)

[Charlie Southerland]

Well, he is a Believer, so I'd go with that first. He loves his family, his God, his church, his guns, his country. I'd rather say that he will go after crooked politicians, corporate cronyism, white collar crime, crooked politicians, gangs, big drug dealers like El Chapo, terrorists, crooked politicians, before he goes after illegals from our southern border. He could be a terrible A.G. but he would still be a step up to the last several we've had.

[William A. Baurle]

The same year, he opposed legislation by Senator John McCain prohibiting the US military from engaging in torture; the amendment passed 90–9.[77]

- from Wikipedia article on Jeff Sessions.

Yikes. Anyone with a gun to their head will say anything to make the person with the gun happy.

Torture does not work when it comes to getting the truth from people.

It didn't work for the lunatics of the Inquisition, and it won't work for the peeps at Gitmo. Or whatever the hell that place is called.

You're not going to change someone's mind by putting a gun to their head, and you're not going to accomplish much of anything besides getting your own rocks off.

I wish with all my heart that I was there when Christ wrote on the ground and prevented a pack of thugs from stoning a woman.

Sorry all, for these sometimes meandering thoughts of mine.

[William A. Baurle]

Originally Posted by Charlie Southerland

Well, he is a Believer, so I'd go with that first. He loves his family, his God, his church, his guns, his country. I'd rather say that he will go after crooked politicians, corporate cronyism, white collar crime, crooked politicians, gangs, big drug dealers like El Chapo, terrorists, crooked politicians, before he goes after illegals from our southern border. He could be a terrible A.G. but he would still be a step up to the last several we've had.

Certainly. But there are lots of Believers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

Christian Identity dictates that all non-whites (people not of wholly European descent) on the planet will either be exterminated or enslaved in order to serve the White race in the new Heavenly Kingdom on Earth under the reign of Jesus Christ.

[William A. Baurle]

Your comfort with the violence against the biosphere, the lower class, and reasoned approaches to reality are duly noted.

- emphasis mine.

Andrew M,

I am re-reading the thread and I caught the above.

No, no, no. There are no classes of people. There are only individuals. Universals don't exist. They are not real entities.

I said the same thing (or nearly) to Andrew F, in a prior post.

I'm a lyricist, nominalist, secularist, New York Jets fan [insert laughter here ], and Christian. The only title there that matters to me at the moment is the last one.

The Jets will win the Super Bowl again, at some point! I gua-rant-ee it!

(Just kidding about that last prophecy. I'm no prophet, or at least, I don't think I am.)