[W T Clark]

Yeah, I'm sure a lot of pffa members would be the first to say that the website is less active. But less-active does not mean non-active. There are still some talented poets and critiquers there, and your poetry would definitely get about 5 or 6 good critiques per thread.

[RCL]

If you want to read a wide variety of Sphere authors, this list of book publications is available:

https://www.ablemuse.com/erato/showt...=books+members

It's some years out of date, but some writers are adding as new pubs occur.

[Jayne Osborn]

Scott,

Lots of useful advice, as predicted... Just don't get bogged down reading others' poems at the expense of penning some of your own!

Jayne

[Tzemach Aryeh]

Originally Posted by Jayne Osborn

Just don't get bogged down reading others' poems at the expense of penning some of your own!

The first critique ever given to me, by a college roommate, was that a good writer reads more than he writes. That roommate had no social filters at all, so I don't know how he managed something so polite, but I've found his advice helpful at every stage of my journey. I think the only advice I've found more helpful was to memorize and recite poetry.

But worry not, I have two poems ready for posting once I get in some critiques of others' work.

[Kevin Rainbow]

I just started writing again, which means I need to start reading again.

Why did you (have to?) stop reading?

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[W T Clark]

Andrew,
I am a new member both here and at PFFA, and being so new to Internet poetry generally I am sure that you are both more experienced than I, and are more knowledgeable about the subjects, however I must stand up for PFFA. PFFA is run by moderators that encourage a high level of critique (and no matter your hatred / disagreement with either Howardm2 or John Boddie) I disagree with you that it is worse than Eratosphere. The critical knowledge of many of the members is very high, and if you wish to get your poems examined and critiqued in a high level forum, than Pffa and Eratosphere are both as good as each other, though each has different strengths.

If I were to comment, I would only advise joining both sites.

[Julie Steiner]

Some might be interested in this list of places where I verified that M.A. Griffiths had workshopped poems (often workshopping the same poem in three or four different venues) between 1999 and 2008:

• Burgundy
• Capriole
• The Desert Moon Review (workshop affiliated with Crescent Moon Journal)
• Dr. Whup-Ass’s Bitch-Ass Poetry Round-Up
• Eratosphere (workshop affiliated with the magazine Able Muse)
• The Gazebo (workshop affiliated with The Alsop Review)
• P.F.F.A. – The Poetry Free-for-All (at Everypoet.com)
• P.O.E.M.S. Place
• The Pennine Poetry Works (THE-WORKS on JISCMail)
• Poetry.etc
• Poetry Kingdom
• The private list affiliated with The Poetry Kit
• POETRY-W (a LISTSERV resource hosted by Penn State)
• Sonnet Central / The Sonnet Board
• Yahoo! Groups affiliated with the World Haiku Club:
  • WHCpoetrybridge
  • WHCsenryu
  • WHCshortverses
  • WHCvanguard

Most of these are now defunct. Some have at least partial archives in the Internet Wayback Machine (which is where I found some of the above).

[Kevin Rainbow]

WTC,


I agree PFFA is fine site. That's why (as Andrew seemed to point out), it is such a shame that the behaviour of its moderators has a trackrecord of being rude and obnoxious. Thankfully, it looks like they are mellowing out with old age.

[David Rosenthal]

Originally Posted by Julie Steiner

[*] Dr. Whup-Ass’s Bitch-Ass Poetry Round-Up

Those were the days.

(Anyone remember Blue Bicycle?)

David R.

[W T Clark]

Kevin Rainbow,
I have no interest in falling out with Andrew or anyone. Andrew advised not to join PFFA. I advise that you should. The moderators can be cutting, but I have never seen any of them being rude. Can you provide evidence for this accusation?


Julie,
Related to your great post.

http://www.everypoet.org/pffa/member...grasshopper-uk