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03-15-2025, 12:45 AM
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03-15-2025, 04:02 AM
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I really like this, Jan. It has a ringing, elemental strength to it. The last line is great, and ominous.
I can't make sense of the opening line about breasts and it nearly throws me out of the whole poem. If it's referring to Trump's history of sexual assault, I'm not getting the image.
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03-15-2025, 05:18 AM
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Hi Yves deleted posts fascinate by their absence.
Hi Mark,
.Having read more about Trump than is good for digestion I assumed much and felt it was a full capitalistic nurture ab initio Adam Smith has much to answer for. BUT I see what you are saying.
I am off to recast that first line but I will pop it in the bucket of possibles.
Looking for greed synonyms I found ‘grabbiness’ and thought it a perfect fit. I hope to keep it in the recasting.
My thanks
Jan
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03-15-2025, 06:47 AM
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I was also disturbed by the first line. Not at all sure what image is being offered, But perhaps that's what you want. But "peace chambered in a gun" is brilliant. Good feeling of anger here.
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03-15-2025, 07:06 AM
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Thanks Joe
When you hang onto line without the only context being inside your head
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03-15-2025, 07:56 AM
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03-15-2025, 08:11 AM
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Jan,
I delete posts when posting makes it clear that my comments would be too much of a downer. It is often best to leave the threads to folk who appreciate what a poet is trying to do, and perhaps not too negatively colour further comments.
But if you want a comment: Given the definition of "commodity", the fourth line comes across as rhyme-driven filler, and the last three lines are drastically better than the rest of the poem. I also thought the first line was a catastrophe with its awkward syntax and personification, but others have now said so much more gently.
Yeah.
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03-15-2025, 10:01 AM
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Just a quick stop-in to give you thanks for expressing the chaos that is the US landscape. Susan did it, too.
I remember back in his first term as president when it spawned a slew of defiant/depressing poems. Now back from the dead, the zombie-in-chief wrecks havoc. What are we to do? Revolt? It sadly brings me to Yeats' rough beast in The Second Coming.
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Yves, Trump deals with everything as if they are commodities awaiting his transactional snare.
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