[peter richards]

Hey, Bevis, he said 'better'...

[David Anthony]

I hardly heard of anywhere that would reject a workshopped poem as published, and such as they are should obviously be ignored.
As an infrequent submitter I find it sometimes works the other way: occasionally editors notice a workshopped poem and ask to use it.

[Allen Tice]

Golias, the subject says it all.

[Michael Cantor]

Um, Golias, can I assume then that it was only Poetry that took this stance, and that your statement about "having several poems declined by major print journals" actually only referred to Poetry (which had already made this policy clear, and which has been the subject of numerous other threads.)?

[Chris Childers]

Here's a question. Did Poetry figure this out for themselves, or did you tell them? Do they google everything? Haven't we had poets previously who have workshopped poems subsequently published by Poetry (Wendy Videlock)?

Edit: Sorry, but I was unfamiliar with this policy of Poetry's...

Chris

[Alex Pepple]

Preventing Google indexing: here.

[Jim Hayes]

Poetry is now accepting electronic submissions at
submissions@poetrymagazine.org

The terms of submission clearly state that prior appearance on line for any reason is considered prior publication and should not be submitted.

[Tim Murphy]

I have never had this happen to me. The few poems of mine which Poetry has taken would not have been so good, probably not even acceptable to Poetry, had they not been workshopped here.

[Janice D. Soderling]

Ahem, see my post just posted in the sister thread

Which publications reject Eratosphere drafts?

It is a darned nuisance that we have two threads going on this subject. I need to learn how to do that underlined here thingie.

[Jim Hayes]

It would seem Timmo, if Poetry's submission policy is to be observed,
a) you shouldn't have submitted any poems that you had workshopped on line
b) they wouldn't have accepted any that you had workshopped on line.

However, as you acknowledge that the poems they have accepted wouldn't have been up to the standard if they hadn't been workshopped, one wonders what their objective is in maintaining what appears, on the surface at least , to be such a very restrictive stance?

One, which we are all, as is evident on other threads on this forum, going to great lengths to circumvent.

For the record I rather agree with the observation made elsewhere that the benefit conferred by the on-going conversation process inherent in workshopping outweighs the advantages of occasional publication. However, when one reads a copy of Poetry, one can't help but note how very few poems one recognises, ergo, not so many of the big guys or gals workship, it doth appear.

At least not on-line.