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Unread 07-03-2006, 05:17 PM
Mary Cresswell Mary Cresswell is offline
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This is absolutely fascinating. I'm off to the library - he was definitely in the sneer-and-ignore category when I was at school.
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Unread 07-07-2006, 01:19 PM
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I would just like to add that some of the best erotic poetry I ever read is in Swinburne's TRISTAN AND ISEULT - see Canto 2, "The Queen's Pleasance."

This is the same man who in his old age took to writing sentimental verse about babies. Whom the gods love die young.
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Unread 07-08-2006, 06:16 AM
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Thank you, Gail.

Yes, you are right, he was a bit of a fizzer there towards the end. But as you say, some of the earlier good stuff is so good.

I think that text you mention could bear a short quotation, if I may.

Here is the last few movements from "The Queen's Pleasance" , Part II, from Tristram of Lyonesse

BANNED POSTHere he caught up her lips with his, and made
The wild prayer silent in her heart that prayed,
And strained her to him till all her faint breath sank
And her bright light limbs palpitated and shrank
And rose and fluctuated as flowers in rain
That bends them and they tremble and rise again
And heave and straighten and quiver all through with bliss
And turn afresh their mouths up for a kiss,
Amorous, athirst of that sweet influent love;
So, hungering towards his hovering lips above,
Her red-rose mouth yearned silent, and her eyes
Closed, and flashed after, as through June's darkest skies
The divine heartbeats of the deep live light
Make open and shut the gates of the outer night.
BANNED POSTBANNED POSTBANNED POSTLong lay they still, subdued with love, nor knew
If could or light changed colour as it grew,
If star or moon beheld them; if above
The heaven of night waxed fiery with their love,
Or earth beneath were moved at heart and root
To burn as they, to burn and bright forth fruit
Unseasonable for love's sake; if tall trees
Bowed, and close flowers yearned open, and the breeze
Failed and fell silent as a flame that fails:
And all that hour unheard the nightingales
Clamoured, and all the woodland soul was stirred,
And depth and height were one great song unheard,
As though the world caught music and took fire
From the instant heart alone of their desire.
BANNED POSTBANNED POSTBANNED POSTSo sped their night of nights between them: so,
For all fears past and shadows, shine and snow,
That one pure hour all-golden where they lay
Made their life perfect and their darkness day.
And warmer waved its harvest yet to reap,
Till in the lovely fight of love and sleep
At length had sleep the mastery; and the dark
Was lit with soft live gleams they might not mark,
Fleet butterflies, each like a dead flower's ghost,
White, blue, and sere leaf-coloured; but the most
White as the sparkle of snow-flowers in the sun
Ere with his breath they lie at noon undone.
Whose kiss devours their tender beauty, and leaves
But raindrops on the grass and sere thin leaves
That were engraven with traceries of the snow
Flowerwise ere any flower of earth's would blow;
So swift they sprang and sank, so sweet and light
They swam the deep dim breathless air of night.
Now on her rose-white amorous breast half bare,
Now on her slumberous love-dishevelled hair,
The white wings lit and vanished, and afresh
Lit soft as snow lights on her snow-soft flesh,
On hand or throat or shoulder; and she stirred
Sleeping, and spake some tremulous bright word,
And laughed upon some dream too sweet for truth,
Yet not so sweet as very love and youth
That there had charmed her eyes to sleep at last.
Nor woke they till the perfect night was past,
And the soft sea thrilled with blind hope of light.
But ere the dusk had well the sun in sight
He turned and kissed her eyes awake and said,
Seeing earth and water neither quick nor dead
And twilight hungering toward the day to be,
"As the dawn loves the sunlight I love thee."
And even as rays with cloudlets in the skies
Confused in brief love's bright contentious wise,
Sleep strove with sense rekindling in her eyes;
And as the flush of birth scarce overcame
The pale pure pearl of unborn light with flame
Soft as may touch the rose's heart with shame
To break not all reluctant out of bud,
Stole up her sleeping cheek her waking blood;
And with the lovely laugh of love that takes
The whole soul prisoner ere the whole sense wakes,
Her lips for love's sake bade love's will be done.
And all the sea lay subject to the sun.

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Unread 07-14-2006, 05:12 AM
Margaret Moore Margaret Moore is offline
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Rose,

Many thanks for posting. I'm too Browningesque in my preferences to be a big Swinburne fan, and in self-indulgent mode much prefer to wallow in Tennyson or Housman. However, I was much taken by Itylus in my school days and was glad to be reminded of it. Thanks, Iain! Works up effectively to its climax, I think.

Margaret
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