[Andrew Mandelbaum]

Here is a good song for our boy.

[Charlie Southerland]

The fact that the singer is British is probably lost on you.
The fact that the UK is having its own problems with Muslim immigrants is also probably lost on you as well.

It isn't lost on Trump. Or me. Eighty percent of Americans want a safe and secure country.

What is also probably lost on you is that you are in the other 20 percent.

[Nigel Mace]

May I politely suggest, Charlie, that you butt out of pontificating on a subject on which you are clearly ill-informed. Your comment about Muslim immigrants in Britain is just nonsense - and worse, it is the kind of incendiary airing of ignorance which stokes bad community feelings. I suggest you leave that to your Mr. Trump, who does it often enough already.

As to the song, I did not know the band or the singer but they seem to have a fairly plangent catalogue. The qualifiers in the lyrics could have been more varied and gained in caustic force by being so - but, of course, I enjoyed it. Thanks, Andrew - and I took a real shine to their track Home.

[Andrew Mandelbaum]

Hey Nigel. My listening is usually not so poppy but I just like that guy. It felt a bit like Guthrie is places despite the honey.

There is a weird echo in here. I feel like I am haunted by the love child of Foghorn Leghorn and Eva Braun. Yeah, Rosenberg is a Brit. Prolly also a Yid as well. Someone should run along over to the ministry and give his name to Dolores Umbridge. He should not be saying such things.

It is not lost on me that there are beautiful humans across all cultures and nations, that our common problems defy borders as well as the categories of stupid schmucks, who, sadly, also can be found on all sides and in every culture.

[Charlie Southerland]

And yet, Nigel, more than fifty percent voted for Brexit. Among their top reasons, Muslim extremism and immigration. Oh Wait, that was their top reason.

The next question is: Will Le Pen take France. Looks pretty good to this old rooster. Ahh Say, son...

[Nigel Mace]

You display your ignorance of these islands every time you post on this subject, Charlie.

Immigration was the top issue among Leave voters in England - not Wales - and saying this disguises, of course, the degree of that concern, i.e. it rated just over 33% NOT over 50% as your post implies. Also, the 'concern' was NOT about Muslim immigration - whatever that is, since no statistics are kept here, anymore than they are - or is it used to be - in the US on the religion of migrants. The pricipal 'concern' was about immigration from the EU, mainly (again the same statistical warning as above) focussing on migrants from the old East European countries, with an especial (same statistical 'health warning' again) and, given our history, shameful singling out of the Poles. As you may be aware, they are disproportionately Roman Catholic.

Muslim extremism was not an issue in the EU referendum - even for Leave voters in England.

So your cocky piece of misinformation is a very close correlative of your President's disgraceful abuse of the facts; you clearly recognise the company you choose to keep.

The facts are, of course, as any dispassionate measure shows, that all of this was non-sense on stilts as the very economically disadvantaged people who voted Leave for these 'reasons' are precisely the people who will/would be especially disadvantaged by cutting off such migrants - who are huge net contributors to our economy and to our social services, from which not they, but not immigrant communities, disproportionally benefit.

I am proud and glad to say that Scotland did not so vote and that we and our government are pro-immigration not only on economic grounds but also on cultural, social and humane ones.
You should try it some time. Oh... come to think of it, I thought that was what the US used to be proud of doing too.

[David Anthony]

Originally Posted by Andrew Mandelbaum

Here is a good song for our boy.

Nice tune and well performed. Pity about the lyrics.

[John Whitworth]

Scots are pro-immigration because they do not have any immigrants. The ones who came didn't like it and buggered off sharpish to England. What is the percentage of muslims in Scotland's population, Nigel? Do you know? Or care?

[James Brancheau]

Everyone's usually pro-immigration, except if they come from certain countries, John. The disaster of Syria, other places, is beyond belief. They are running for their lives and know more about terrorism than any of us. Enough is enough. It's allowed brexit and a moron to become president of the US. It has exposed us.

[Gail White]

Some of this discussion reminds me of the Aussie Eric Bogle's wonderful song, "I Hate Wogs."