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08-31-2008, 06:17 AM
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I know of no Jew, Jehovah's Witness or Buddhist that teaches an image of God as being an unforgiving, furious Deity.
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Interesting - I'll have to see if I can get Dan to leave his football boards for a couple minutes and have him introduce you to the Jewish God of the Old Testament. You know the One - He's the God who smote thousands of people several times over because they'd displeased Him. The One that sent Noah the flood and tore down Babel and turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt and afflicted Job. That God.
I'd also suggest you find a web page about The Witnesses.
This is a good start: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8034_1.html
Pay particular attention as to just who is going to be saved in the end and why.
As for not trusting Catholics or Baptists to run the country - how did you feel about John Kennedy? Warren Harding? Harry Truman? Jimmy Carter? Bill Clinton?
Out of 43 presidents only 2 of them did not have a religious affiliation. The great majority of them were some form of Christian - 2 were Quakers, 1 was a Jehovah Witness. The rest were Episcopalian, Christian Reformed,
Methodist, Presbyterian, or Unitarian. All traditionally "Christian."
Has there not been a president in the bunch other than Abraham Lincoln or Andrew Johnson that you'd feel safe under?
Lo
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08-31-2008, 06:24 AM
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I think the voters do have the right to decide whether or not they think Sarah Palin is a liar:
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Based on rumor?
By that reckoning, the people also have the right to judge Obama a Muslim who's been lying about it all along.
http://www.insightmag.com/Media/Medi...er/Obama_2.htm
I mean, heck, it's all over the media. And we all know they never print rumor or innuendo. If they say it, it must be true. Especially if it's being said in more than one place.
So there you have it - Palin and Obama are both liars.
The Internet says so and it's been linked to right here on Eratosphere.
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08-31-2008, 06:28 AM
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My first thought on hearing McCain's choice was that he was going after the former Hillary supporters who aren't comfortable with Obama.
My second though was, "It might work." I don't have a praticulalry high opinion of the average voter.
Then I hear her campaign slogan for the office of Governor was, "The coldest state - the hottest governor!"
Hmmm....
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08-31-2008, 06:30 AM
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and what does anyone know about her?
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That was a popular question when Obama came on the scene, as I recall.
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08-31-2008, 06:41 AM
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Her approval rating is north of eighty percent, and her citizens have dubbed her "Saint Sarah."
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08-31-2008, 06:44 AM
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Lo,
As you might have noticed, I've gone independent and am running my own Presidential campaign.
Re: The Old Testament - I've read it, but certainly do not read it literally or as a history book. The bible is a spiritual book that must be spiritual discerned.
Re: JW's - I know what they believe - annihilation of the wicked. I think in a sense, I believe that as well, though I am a universalist and believe the righteous and wicked are simply our two natures. The old is passing away. We are 'by nature' the children of wrath.
However, I think we are getting pretty far away from to original topic.
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08-31-2008, 06:47 AM
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Then I hear her campaign slogan for the office of Governor was, "The coldest state - the hottest governor!"
Hmmm....
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LOL You hear right, Jerry. Her father even bought a few.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...837713,00.html
She's also known as "The Queen of UTube" according to Time Magazine. The videos are worth watching - especially if you need a good laugh.
http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...837607,00.html
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08-31-2008, 06:48 AM
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Her approval rating is north of eighty percent, and her citizens have dubbed her "Saint Sarah."
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Tim,
Are you concerned with her stand on Gay Rights? I think she is against Gay and Lesbian rights to unite.
Saint Sarah, huh? Wow. St. John/McCain and St. Sarah for president. That is change indeed.
Anne
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08-31-2008, 06:51 AM
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Her approval rating is north of eighty percent.
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In Alaska or in The United States, Tim?
Just out of curiousity, Tim, since you're a hunter and living here in DC I don't know too many hunters, how do you feel about aerial hunting of animals? Is it sporting or does it kind of negate the whole "sport" theory?
Also, regardless of your opinion of it, I'm wondering, what happens to animals which are killed from a plane or helicoptor? Are the carcasses left to rot? You can't just land your plane or helicopter wherever you've scored a hit - so do they just get left to rot or does someone later go back on foot and collect the dead animal?
Tree-huggers want to know.
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08-31-2008, 06:52 AM
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However, I think we are getting pretty far away from to original topic.
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True, and you've neatly sidestepped my question about Kennedy and company.
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