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08-04-2020, 07:02 AM
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Poetic Influences
Hello Ann;
You are right.
Thanks.
Bill
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08-04-2020, 10:09 AM
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Oh, I forgot Ann Drysdale, and her many wonderful poem collections (and prosimetra) that approach life's difficult truths with a combination of reverence and irreverence! Very influential.
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08-04-2020, 01:52 PM
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Teens: Auden, Shelley, Housman
Twenties: Auden and Betjeman
Thirties: Auden, Robinson, McKay, Donne, Herbert, Shakespeare, Milton, and pretty much every Renaissance poet
Forties: As above, but especially Herbert, Milton, Shakespeare...and Auden
Regarding the scuttlebutt about Robinson, it's hard to think of a three-time Pulitzer winner as "underrated," and yet...he's underrated. One of the high points of my academic career so far was teaching half a dozen of his character poems (from Children of the Night) to an undergrad course I taught on character and characterization in the spring. One student came up with a queer theory interpretation of "Fleming Helphenstine" and I doubt I'll be able to read the poem any other way.
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08-17-2020, 10:35 PM
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Not inclusive enough. Not definitive.
Youth: Shakespeare! Catullus! Ψαπφω! Canticles (in Bible).
Adulthood: Duino Elegies (in the original!), Yeats, MacLeish, Trakl? Fortran, Cobol, Basic, Dylan, Auden, Homer in Rodney Merrill’s metrical translations. Catullus and Sappho again.
Reaction against: Peter Orlovsky (didn’t care for his “sperm on the typewriter keys”, wuh).
So much more, pro and con.
I guess Shakespeare, Catullus, Canticles, Sappho, Homer, G. W. Leibniz.
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08-18-2020, 08:33 AM
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Ah, the poetic possibilities of Cobol, Allen! With properly-defined data fields, you could write
MOVE HEAVEN TO EARTH
SUBTRACT AN-OYSTER FROM ITS-SHELL
ACCEPT YOUR-LIFE FROM BIRTH
CALL ME-ISHMAEL
TRANSFORM YOUR-MOOD FROM GRIEF TO MIRTH
SEND DONALD-TRUMP TO HELL
and the computer would do it all.
Note to Julie: This is not an illicit poem - as if I would! - just a series of valid Cobol instructions.
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08-18-2020, 12:05 PM
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Shucks, Brian Allgar knows how to be funny.
Last edited by Allen Tice; 08-18-2020 at 12:08 PM.
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08-18-2020, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
SEND DONALD-TRUMP TO HELL
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Poor program. It is already suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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08-19-2020, 05:14 AM
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Adulthood: Duino Elegies (in the original!),
Oh, woeful are we poor mortals that must read via translation. Oh, grant us the power of bilingualism! Oh, oh!
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