[Andrew Frisardi]

I turn to the Sphere’s collective know-how once again to solve a grammar question.

In a translation I’m workshopping now, there is this phrase:

To sigh my anguish and to cry my ache
consume my heart . . .

Should the verb “consume” be singular or plural?

There are differing opinions about it in the translation thread, some saying “to sigh” and “to cry” are separate actions that should not be treated as a unit, others saying that it is a single action made up of two elements.

My “instinct” would be to use the singular there, but that could just be my lousy education.

Does anyone know if there’s a proper grammatical rule for this sort of thing?

[David Rosenthal]

Originally Posted by Andrew Frisardi

I turn to the Sphere’s collective know-how once again to solve a grammar question.

In a translation I’m workshopping now, there is this phrase:

To sigh my anguish and to cry my ache
consume my heart . . .

Should the verb “consume” be singular or plural?

There are differing opinions about it in the translation thread, some saying “to sigh” and “to cry” are separate actions that should not be treated as a unit, others saying that it is a single action made up of two elements.

My “instinct” would be to use the singular there, but that could just be my lousy education.

Does anyone know if there’s a proper grammatical rule for this sort of thing?

Andrew,

I don't know what the rule is here, but I can tell you that if "consume" is meant to be immediately and clearly recognized by the reader as a verb whose subject is the previous line, as opposed to a third verb in a list, "consumes" works better. Essentially, it sounds better. IMO.

David R.

[Richard Meyer]

I think the common rule states that when you have two items joined by the conjunction and the verb must be plural in order to have correct subject/verb agreement.

Sighing consumes my heart.

Sighing and crying consume my heart.

Therefore, in the example you give, the verb consume is the correct choice.

[Andrew Frisardi]

David and Richard, your takes on this are exactly the ones I’ve gone back and forth about--on one hand “consumes” sounds more natural, on the other hand, logically it seems that “consume” would be correct. When Richard rephrases it using the gerunds the choice is crystal clear, but with the infinitives it sounds different, and I’m not sure why that is other than maybe unconscious speech habits.

[David Rosenthal]

Originally Posted by Richard Meyer

I think the common rule states that when you have two items joined by the conjunction and the verb must be plural in order to have correct subject/verb agreement.

That reminds me, peanut butter and jelly are my favorite kind of sandwich. (Editing in -- Sorry, Richard, not trying to be cute, I guess my smartass impulse took over for a minute.)

To say "To sigh my anguish and to cry my ache" is a noun phrase equivalent to "peanut butter and jelly" may be a stretch, but that is what poetic license is for. I think it gives Andrew enough leeway to do what sounds best.

David R.

[David Rosenthal]

Moreover:

To cut and run is a coward's game. (Also: Cutting and Running is a coward's game.)

To have and to hold was the vow they made.

I dunno, Andrew, I think you can do what you want in this case.

David R.

[Wintaka]

Andrew:

Two actions consume my heart.

HTH,

Colin

[Duncan Gillies MacLaurin]

Definitely singular. "It sounds right" is one of the best arguments I know. But, to rationalise, if the two subjects constitute a whole then the singular should be used.

Duncan

[Allen Tice]

Balderdash!

"Consumes."

Toby Mindless Windlass-Hyphen, FRGS

[Petra Norr]

I agree with Carol: the biggest problem is not the consume/consumes issue. I went and looked at your crib, Andrew, which I neglected to do before because I was focusing solely on the question you had raised about "consumes".

Your Crib:
Crying with suffering and sighing with anguish [Painful weeping and anguished sighs] destroy my heart whenever I find myself alone, such that it would displease/bother/be insupportable to anyone who heard me:

Your Translation as it stands now:
To sigh my anguish and to cry my ache
consume my heart whenever I abscond,
such that would pierce the one who overheard.

I have to say, there's a lot of strange stuff there. If it had been just one strange thing, maybe it wouldn't matter so much.