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Her Jam


I told her again: Don’t lick the knife.
But I’m always too late.
“Too late!” she grins, snaking her tongue
between her lips to chase the last sweet smear.
“One of these days,” I warn, “you’ll taste blood.”
She shrugs, gives it one last languid swipe—
slow and theatrical.

Then, like nothing at all,
she tosses the blade in the sink,
wipes her mouth with the back of her hand,
and says,
“We’re out of blueberry jam.
Pick some up, will you?”




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Hi Jim,

I took this, rightly or wrongly, to be a nod to Lewis Carroll's "jam tomorrow and jam yesterday, but never jam today" - used [quote from the internet] to caution people against being deceived or distracted by empty promises that offer future rewards or benefits that are not fulfilled in the present moment.

Another quote says "Jam tomorrow" is an expression for a never-fulfilled promise, or for some pleasant event in the future, which is never likely to materialize.

My immediate thoughts were:
1) If I'm wrong about the premise, then I don't quite get the point of the poem, and
2) If I'm right about the premise, then I would question the use of "she grins"

The conversation, from the N and his wife, is trite, to say the least; there's no lovey-doveyness between them at all, so I'd suggest anything other than "grins" for her response - maybe "she hisses", echoing the snaking of her tongue.

In addition, how about calling the poem "Jam Tomorrow"? I imagine it's a well-known-enough phrase to convey, subtly, that the request to buy some more of a seemingly unimportant household item (she doesn't even say "please") is indicative that this isn't a particularly happy marriage.

Jayne

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Hey Jim, my thoughts on interpretation -
I told her again - implies this is something reoccuring and irritates the N.
“Too late” - the girl is playful in her personality and is aware and knows what she is doing.
One of these days you’ll taste blood - trying to help her but maybe her personality is just so impulsive that she can’t help it.
the story represents a toxic relationship with the girl knowing that she can get away with her behavior and the guy being helpless to how he wants to change her behavior but maybe that’s just apart of her identity and he has to accept that?
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Hi Jim,

Well, my first thought was that this is a snapshot, a compact bit of characterization, of a concerned attentive careful advice-giving parent and a willfully independent carefree unheeding child/teenager/young adult. I think I found out much about them in a short acquaintance, but I did find myself wanting to know the actual relationship.

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Jam


I told her again: Don’t lick the knife.
But I’m always too late.
“Too late!” she grins, snaking her tongue
between her lips to chase the last sweet smear.
“One of these days,” I warn, “you’ll taste blood.”
She shrugs, gives it one last languid swipe—
slow and theatrical.

Then, like nothing at all,
she tosses the blade in the sink,
wipes her mouth with the back of her hand,
and says,
“We’re out of blueberry jam.
Pick some up, will you?”

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Enjoyed this Jim. It plays at the edges, but doesn't cross the border to outright confrontation. The goading, defiance and disregard are neatly translated in the non-verbal theatre. A theatre of liberation that outplays the partner's attempt at control/commonsense. The sensuality plays against the impotence.

The second section is louder, certainly not nuanced, but does give emphasis to the contempt.

Phil
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Thanks Jayne, Jim, Harry, Phil.

It seems like all of you are putting effort into deciphering the poem's meaning. It's, as Jim says, a snapshot of a hundred or more times when I've said to either to my wife or daughter, "Don't lick the knife". It's become their little way of getting under my skin : )

The poem relates a rather innocuous thing on the surface — an annoying habit of a family member — and deals with it in a cheeky, cloying way. But I also wanted to play a bit with the intrigue of the phrase, "Don't lick the knife" for its dark-edged imagery.

Jayne, I regret to say that you've gone off in a much different direction than what the poem intends! The nod to Lewis Carroll never occurred to me. I don't see any connection other than the word "jam". I've also never heard the idiom, "jam tomorrow" and, now that I know what it means, can't see how it refers to the poem. Oh well. Brits and jam I've changed the title to be "Her Jam".

Harry, your interpretation is much more severe than I intended. I get the impression that you saw in the poem a kind of toxicity in a relationship that is just not there, imo. Maybe I need to look at that to be sure...

Jim, You've got the gist of it. I mean for the poem to come off as playful. It's, as you say, a snapshot of a relationship(s) that is strong enough to withstand the day-in and day-out petty annoyances with each other and still come out feeling loved, despite those little things you can't change : )

Hi Phil, Yes you picked up on the subtle tinge of edginess in the poem. I think I may need to soften the ending a bit to avoid the contempt that you picked up on that should not be there. And yes, there's no doubt there is a sensuality in the poem (I hope) that lurks in the background.

The subject in the poem is a composite of my wife and our daughter, both of whom have always licked the knife when the opportunity presented itself. It's one of those pet peeves for me and they know it. My chastising them has never deterred them from doing it whenever the situation presents itself. My daughter especially would tend to defiantly lick it again after I said it as she smiled at me. It's something of an inside joke, I guess. I would think that, after I'm gone and the family is sitting around reminiscing, they will no doubt say lovingly, "Remember how he used to say 'Don't lick the knife' and tell us we were going to cut our tongues?"

The poem is meant to begin with frustration. I've always said "don't lick the knife" as they lick it, but have never said it just before they lick it. It's one of those things that happens so quickly and in the moment that I've never had the presence of mind to thwart her from licking it; only to admonish her after the fact (and sometimes while in the act) for licking it. Just one of those things. It's a kind of "you had to be there" kind of moment to appreciate the nuances of the back-and-forth exchange of words and behaviors.

I've always liked the imagery embedded in the phrase "lick the knife." It has a seductive, almost daring feel. "Don't lick the knife" just feels metaphorical. I'm not exactly sure how it is, but it certainly has the feel of being a powerful metaphor. So I like it for that reason, too.

Full disclosure: no blood has been shed licking the knife. At least not in my house.


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It seems like all of you are putting effort into deciphering the poem's meaning.
It feels like it wants that.

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The poem relates a rather innocuous thing on the surface — an annoying habit of a family member — and deals with it in a cheeky, cloying way. But I also wanted to play a bit with the intrigue of the phrase, "Don't lick the knife" for its dark-edged imagery.[/color]
FWIW, it felt more dark than innocuous to me. I thought the title hinted at a jam these two were in. They were both unpleasant to each other and (possibly because I couldn't see any other reason for the poem to share this moment with me) I thought it would eventually end very badly.

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“One of these days,” I warn, “you’ll taste blood.”
That sounded like a threat of violence. I thought the poem had a reason for making the pov character the more unpleasant of the two. To understand that he's warning her she'll cut herself, I at minimum need to be told she's using a sharp knife to spread the jam, which is not what I pictured.
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Hey Jim, Interesting explanation. Honestly that’s probably just me I read too much Sylvia Plath to not see everything as toxic I think haha
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I do think the tasting blood part threw me off though maybe along with it being a knife I assumed a darker undertone. Maybe if the knife were a spoon it would be different?

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It's true that there is a tone here that is very unlike what I imagine your homelife to be, Jim. Might you want to revisit the poem to get the tone a little more true?

I wonder, for instance, whether removing the third and fourth lines would help. And tweaking the finish?

But you know the poem better than I will.

Cheers

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