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Poetics
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Topic Discussions
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Alex
Pepple |
I have a question for Alicia & Diane — and everyone else is welcome to
join in. You both share the common experience of a first book — recently
published (Alicia's Archaic Smile, or soon to be published (Diane's
Echolocations). Also, both of you accomplished this as competition
winners, and you both have a personal website to promote your books.
Would you like to discuss your experience in this, why there are so many similarities, and how setting up the websites have been
helpful?
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Diane
Thiel |
Perhaps
Alicia and I should consult Delphi regarding the similarities. Seriously,
though, I enjoyed Alicia’s recent presentation on the first book panel
at West Chester and did, in fact, feel a definite correspondence with many of
her comments about the process: having been a delighted, but heartbroken
finalist in several competitions, changing and re-arranging the book over
the years. Now on the other side of the first book, I can see how
absolutely essential the time, extra revision and replacement was. I
thought I had a strong book ten years ago, as a 1990 graduate thesis. But as I replaced poems over the years, I found that an
entirely different book appeared. I think only one of the poems in
Echolocations appeared in that early thesis. Granted, though, many ideas
raised in those early pieces found their way into later poems. (Along the way, I wrote enough poems to fill at least five books. I hope this
doesn’t mean that for future books, I will have to write five for every
one published. But I do think it was essential for my development.)
Perseverance is crucial. I never really lost “faith” over those
years, even though the process took a great deal longer than I had hoped.
But I was teaching, traveling, writing new poems. I was also writing and
publishing some non-fiction pieces about an experience in Colombia, which
became a book-length manuscript. I also developed a book of exercises
(Writing Your Rhythm), from the years of teaching. I am extraordinarily
thankful, now, to have had the time to further find my voice before
emerging with a first book of poetry.
About the web page: For me, using the internet is a rather recent
development, but I think it’s a great way to lead people to your work
and present new developments. And e-mail has been extremely useful, as I
am sometimes out of the country for several months at a time.
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A. E.
Stallings |
Well, some of the similarities are easy to explain. For instance, why mine
and Diane's first book are both also competition winners: there is almost
no other way to publish a first book.And this is a problem, I think. Because book publication has become
tied to the flukishness of contests, and the sheer number of contests then
dilutes the prestige of any one of them. And I think, due to the strong
element of chance (and some would add, nepotism) now attendant on book
publication, that a book should no longer be one of the hurdles required
for certain jobs and grants (as it now is). A poet could have every single
poem in his or her manuscript published in such journals as Poetry and The
New Yorker and STILL be unable to win a contest. There is no correlation
between journal and book publication. Also, with a first book a
requirement for many jobs, a number of manuscripts are out there ONLY to
fulfill that requirement for job seekers—NOT because the poet feels his
or her work is ready to place in the eye of the world. (Actually, there are a few presses who claim to look at poetry
manuscripts with a query. But almost invariably the response I got from
sending one was a flier for a new contest.)
Like Diane, I also have been shopping a manuscript around since the
beginning of the 1990s. And like her, I am also grateful for the
opportunity it gave me to improve the manuscript. I used to wonder if
maybe I had gone the MFA route the process might have been a little easier—I might have been more in the loop, and a mentor might have helped
me with that all-important task of ordering the poems. But maybe not.
As it is, I think things worked out for the best in the end. The book
is much stronger than it would have been had my prayers been answered
sooner. And I am very pleased with my publisher, Bill Baer, and what an
attention to detail he has, and what a lovely job he has done with the
book. I am very lucky. For one thing, Bill Baer and Dana Gioia were very
helpful with improving the order of the manuscript, which was a mess from
years of desperate tinkering. It is my suspicion that, as a rule, the
contest system favors a polished and slick manuscript package over the
quality of the poems therein.
The web site has been really useful in promoting the book. The book has
no distribution in book stores, so this seems one of the best ways to
disseminate ordering information, link up with on-line booksellers, offer
some sample selections from the book, etc. Of course, a web site is pretty
useless unless you have some links to it. I have been lucky to have a
modest web presence, on sites such as this one, EP&MO, the Alsop
Review, Poetry Daily (which has featured Diane and some of the other
panelists), et al. Also, a web site gives people an easy way to get in
touch with you, especially good for me since I live abroad.
Sorry to wax prolix. The topic of book contests seems to be one that
just gets me to ranting...
I'd so much like to hear from the other (and more established
panelists) on this. Has book publishing changed very much since your first
volume? I've heard now, also, that the publication of mid-career books is
starting to fall prey to the same contest mechanism. Eeek!
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